• Home
  • |
  • Blog
  • |
  • K-1 Question from Lenders: Can I use Self-employed income?
Loading the audio player...

I get questions all the time from bank and credit union lenders on lending to businesses and to business owners. Here is one from last week: Can I use the self-employed income on the 1065 K-1?

Wouldn’t that be easy?

The 1065 K-1 has a line for ‘Self-employed Income’. It is Line 14 on the 2009 K-1. It is already calculated for you. Easy, right?

Yes, but it is not what you need!

Sorry, can’t use it.

Self-employed income is the taxable income on which the partner/LLC member must pay into social security. It is a combination of their share of the ordinary (taxable) income and, if they are receiving any, their share of guaranteed payments.

(If you don’t know what guaranteed payments are, use my site-wide search box to find out.)

Never* use taxable income as if it were cash flow

* I should know better than to use the word ‘never’ but this is a pretty good time.

There are three choices for cash flow to use when calculating owner cash flow from a closely-held company.

  1. The owner’s share of taxable income
  2. What the company actually paid to the owner
  3. What the company can afford to pay

The self-employed income reported on 1065 K-1, Line 14 (2009 return) falls into the first category. And we do not lend to businesses nor to business owners based on taxable income, right? If we did, we would just use AGI and call it good.

Related Posts

Double-Counting Capital Gains Income from a 1065 K-1

Double-Counting Capital Gains Income from a 1065 K-1

Interest from a K-1 on Schedule B: Count it or not?

Interest from a K-1 on Schedule B: Count it or not?

Got questions? 2 quick resources for answers on cashflow analysis of tax returns

Got questions? 2 quick resources for answers on cashflow analysis of tax returns

K-1 Question from Lenders: Can I use Self-employed income?

K-1 Question from Lenders: Can I use Self-employed income?

Linda Keith


Linda Keith is an expert in credit risk readiness and credit analysis training. She trains financial institutions throughout the United States on both Tax Return and Financial Statement Analysis.
She is in the trenches with lenders, analysts and underwriters helping them say "yes" to good loans.
She moved her in person training online in 2008 to www.LendersOnlineTraining.com with a continued focus on lending to businesses, farm operations and complex individual borrowers.

>